Just a quick FYI before we begin: Beneath the comments section (all the way at the bottom), you’ll find answers to several important and frequently asked questions regarding homosexuality, so please be sure to check those out.
“Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.”
May we all pray and ask that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Moses deliver us from error and guide us unto truth, by the blessed name of His Son, Yeshua Ha-Mashiach.
This blog was created to address the comments made by NALT co-founders John and Catherine Shore in this clip that was uploaded to Youtube:
Let it be known up front that the message NALT is preaching is not one of love and I will do my best to explain the reasons why below. Readers should also note that the disturbing message is rejected by the true Apostolic Eastern Orthodox Church. They are a group of self-professed “Christians” whose message will most certainly shut the door to the kingdom of heaven in the faces of all who choose to accept it. Though their emotional plea may seem innocent on the surface, once you delve deep into the heart of the matter, you will soon come to realize that what they are actively preaching is religious heresy and what we are very simply dealing with here is apostasy.
2 Timothy 4:3-4:
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
NALT has exploited sin-affirming priests and gay-friendly churches to suit their own desires and they have turned to a mythical belief stating that, “homosexuality is not a sin.” Many people didn’t accept what Christ had to say when He walked this earth (John 6:66), so it should be of absolutely no surprise to anyone that rejection and the turning away from the Word is occurring today as well. I’d add also that we definitely shouldn’t feel as though it’s justified when people do, in fact, reject the word. Whether it’s ten transgressors or ten million, turning from truth means turning toward lies. There really is no other way to put it and there is no “in between.”
Both followers of NALT and those who seek to become a part of their group – I urge you to pray that God grant you wisdom on this matter and to think about these matters every chance you get. Please, do not rely simply on what you feel is right or wrong. Our feelings have led us astray many a times, so let God be your guide. “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.7 Therefore do not be partners with them.” (Ephesians 5:6) Reject not only their message, but them as well. Romans 16:17-18 tells us to “keep away from those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned.“ (Bold emphasis mine) Everything NALT is preaching is 100% contrary to the teaching we all have learned over the years, so “keep away from them”, “For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites.” (Bold emphasis mine) This should not be done out of spite or out of hatred, but separate yourself from unrighteous and unwholesome speech and those who actively live and preach such things.
The below statement was taken from the following blog:
So, as long as I’m rambling. You know what the real b*tch is? It’s Christians on the LEFT criticizing the cr*p out of me for not being loving enough to anti-gay Christians and their leaders and institututions. Very nearly as often as often as I hear “You love the fags, you fag-lover! Youruurre gointo HELLL SToopPid!!!” I hear, “Oh, John. Why must you be so divisive? Why can’t you live only in the kind compassion of our Lord Jesus Christ, who enjoined us to love one another as we love our neighbors? Can’t you see that in dividing the church as you are, you are bringing tears to the loving face of Jesus? Can’t you see that your words are breaking Jesus’s heart? Why are you making baby Jesus cry by causing his brothers and sisters to argue, when we should all be sitting around a campfire holding hands and singing Kumaya, My Lord?” Seriously, man. I hear that ALL THE FREAKIN TIME. Ugh. That sh*t drives me about crazy sometimes, to be honest with you.
I added an asterisk (*) where it was needed, but the childish and vulgar language, the sarcasm and the condescending tone towards those of us who maintain that the Bible truly is against homosexuality – not to mention using the Lord’s name in vein, comes from none other than NALT co-founder John Shore.
1 John 4:1:
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (Bold emphasis mine)
This isn’t meant to serve as an ad hominem attack, but to get you to ask yourselves: Is John really a great teacher sent by God to expose what the “ignorant” Apostles, the Saints and the Church have somehow overlooked for the past 2,000 years? One who truly knows the truth of our Scripture? Or is he, like many, a greatly misguided man (a false teacher) who walks in darkness but believes that he’s found the light? We’ll test his spirit shortly, but brothers and sisters, for now I implore you not to take this issue lightly. It’s not a game and it very literally is a matter of (eternal) life or (spiritual) death for you or for those who you may choose to preach to, so please keep these consequences in mind at all times. Also, be wise and be careful, “…for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” (2 Corinthians 11:14)
We all know that even satan used truth in his failed attempt to deceive Jesus. He used what was righteous to get Jesus to do what was unrighteous. Matthew 4:1-11 shows us that he actually quoted Scripture to get Jesus to sin. But again, it didn’t work. I see the same kind of deceit being spread by NALT and its followers today. Pay attention to how what they’re doing is comparable to what satan did. They say, “If Christians have treated you unfairly, we are not all like that.” This true statement somehow turns into an attempt to get others to accept homosexual activity as being free from sin. The problem? It is a sin. The ideology was born out of a complete and utter misrepresentation of Scripture and, sadly, unlike Jesus, many of the NALT followers I have personally spoken with (which, by the way, are but mere infants in understanding Scripture) have been swept away by these lies and some have even been misled into thinking that (and this is a direct quote), “the group is all about treating others fairly.” It’s astonishing how some of their followers have no idea what NALT is truly about. These individuals are even making videos promoting NALT even though many of these same individuals actually believe that homosexuality is a sin. Now this is not to say that many don’t believe that it isn’t a sin, they do, but do you see the comparison, though? Using truth that ends in deceit but how in this case, unfortunately, it’s actually worked?
Here’s the thing: any true Christian would never hate or marginalize homosexuals (meaning, people with gay urges), because we know that 1) Romans 3:23 tells us that everyone has fallen short of the glory of God (meaning that we are all sinners), 2) everyone has intrinsic value (John 3:16) and 3) that all humans are made in God’s image (Genesis 1:27). You may think to yourself, “And while you say that a true Christian would never hate, discriminate, or ostracize a person for being homosexual, I suggest you take a good hard look around at what is happening and how supposed followers of Christ are acting towards those who are homosexual.” But as I’ve stated above, true Christians would not hate another soul. If a so-called “Christian” is hating someone, the logical conclusion is that they are not living in accordance with Christ’s teachings. That is the point. Not that people don’t actually hate and bash one another – I would think it’s obvious that they do – even in Christian communities. Has that not been the case for quite some time now? Did Cain not kill his brother? Did the Apostles not wish to bring fire from the heavens to consume those who didn’t accept Jesus and, in turn, get rebuked by Jesus? I’ve oftentimes said that when you want to know the heart of God, don’t turn towards man. There is rage in our hearts and many of us fall infinitely short of accurately representing the love God has for us all. One of the great Saints of the Church once said, “Is it right that our Lord should die for sinners, but that we should hate them?” The answer, very obviously, is no! It happens, but it most certainly is not right.
Matthew 12:34-37 shows us that we will know true Christians by their fruit. A good Christian not only wouldn’t condemn their brothers and sisters, but they would actually help carry what may be a tremendous weight on their shoulders. To suffer with them, as Hebrews 13:3 shows us. This is truth and this is love – though let’s not confuse loving someone and even helping with enabling. We must understand that not treating homosexuals unfairly and believing that God’s grace is for everyone (John 17:20), surely does not mean that we are to deem that which is sinful as being “okay.” It’s not! We should help them overcome a sinful lifestyle, not accept it. “But Jesus loves everyone”, is what we hear people say. This is true – He does love everyone. But does He condone their sinning lifestyle (because that is precisely what NALT and other like-minded individuals would have you believe) or does our Lord and Savior demand and command holiness out of every believer? Well, let’s take a look at Scripture and see if we can find the answer to that question.
In John 8:2-11, we see that Jesus didn’t hate the adulteress and He most definitely didn’t marginalize her, rather He showed her unmerited favor by not condemning her and by forgiving her, though not without telling her to, “Go and sin…NO MORE!” (Emphasis mine) Jesus Himself said this. He showed her compassion and love by forgiving her for sinning against Him by being sexually immoral but He also told her never to sin again. In the NIV rendering of this verse it says, “leave your life of sin.” (Bold emphasis mine) Grace-preachers far too often condemn the mere mention of sin, but the same was said to the impotent man in John 5:14. We see time and time again that Jesus not only instructed others not to sin, but specifically pointing to the example in John 5, He took His preaching of sin a step further by telling the man that if he did sin again, something worse than being paralyzed for 38 years may happen to him. I’m certain that by anyone’s standard, being paralyzed is bad, so what in heavens’ name can be worse than that? Well, whatever it is, if the man had lived then by the same standard that NALT teaches others to live by today, and thus willfully decided to sin again, he surely would have found out.
That being said, does this honestly sound like a Jesus that isn’t concerned with sin? Not to me it doesn’t. Not in any way imaginable. I’ve been told that my focus on sin over grace is “noteworthy”, but I would hope it’s explicitly obvious to the readers that I’m in very good Company.
Going back to John 8:2-11, I’d say it’s a good reference point to show us all exactly how Christ would act towards one who openly practices homosexuality. As was the case with the adulteress (she, however, was actually remorseful for her sinful acts), He would love them also but He would say to them also, “Go and sin no more!” Love for all mankind is Christ-like, but acceptance of their sinful ways (as we’ve just seen) is 100% not Christ-like.
“See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.”
Unfortunately, even though their interpretation of Scripture lacks a sound and truthful foundation, some have sadly been taken captive by their message. This is why we must all take a stand against this very recent, pervasive and unwelcome movement – for the sake of others – in order that we expose to the Christian community that they are false teachers which no one should ever turn to for guidance on any matter related to Scripture. To expose NALT and those of like mind as a group of individuals that are moved by the spirit of the age rather than the Spirit of God.
Having said that, I’ve created this webpage by the grace of our living God and by the power and blessing of Christ, may it serve as guidance for my brothers and sisters. I’ve done my best to be receptive to God’s true Word and in turn to answer the comments made in the clip John and Catherine Shore uploaded to Youtube. The red number is indicative of the minute mark where their comment was made and the green “My response” is my response to their comment. Please copy, paste, and share whatever you’d like from this page whenever, wherever and to whomever you’d like. I encourage it, actually. May the blessings of Jesus Christ our Lord be upon all who love and have taken the time to find truth. Amen.
Now before we begin, let us first say a prayer:
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.
Then let us also take heed to what one of the great Saints of the Eastern Orthodox Church tells us to do, and then do as he says:
“Do not approach the words of the mysteries contained in the divine Scriptures without prayer and beseeching God for help, but say: Lord, grant me to perceive the power in them! Reckon prayer to be the key to the true understanding of the divine Scriptures.”
1:00: “It doesn’t say homosexuals are condemned to hell.”
My response: No, it doesn’t. It says those who practice homosexuality will never enter the kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
The misconception many seem to have about the God of the Bible is that He’s actively trying to keep sinners (which includes those who practice homosexual behavior) out of some exclusive club, but in reality, what He’s doing because of His immeasurable love is desperately trying to bring them in. By commanding every Christian to repent, He’s attempting to bring us into a life of infinite joy and love and peace, but NALT is actively hindering that by suggesting that those who engage in homosexual behavior continue in their sinful ways.
If you read any of the verses explicitly mentioning homosexuality, you’ll see for yourselves that it doesn’t attack the person, but the sin. If you notice, in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 it uses the word “practice.” This points to something very significant. Again, it doesn’t say homosexuals won’t enter, it says those who “practice” homosexuality will not enter into the kingdom. This should show you that even those who do have homosexual desires (I don’t believe people “are gay”, for reasons I’ll explain below) have been given the same opportunity every other sinful believer has been given: to first and foremost repent and then to eventually enter into the kingdom.
Here’s what needs to be understood first, though: people have no control over how they feel, nor do we have control over the thoughts that arise within us, but we do have control over whether or not we accept these thoughts or desires and allow them (through our will) to manifest themselves into our lives. The same way a heterosexual man can’t help but to be attracted to women – he can’t choose to be attracted to men no matter what he does – well in that same manner is how those who are attracted to someone of the same sex can’t help it either. Humans should understand this and God most definitely understands.
He doesn’t condemn a man or a woman for an involuntary thought and one of the great Saints of the Eastern Orthodox Church (St. Isaac The Syrian) confirms this in the below quote. He says:
“Now God does not turn away from us on account of the mere movement of a thought, but only when our mind persists in it. For God does not chastise and judge a man for an involuntary movement, not even if we agree with it for a moment. And if, at the very moment, when we spur the passion on, compunction should overtake us, then the Lord will not call us to account for such negligence. Yet He does call us to account for that which our thinking has truly accepted, and looks upon shamelessly, and has accepted as fitting and profitable, not considering it a terrible thing to muse upon it.”
So we see that no one is condemned for a homosexual thought that arises within them, even if they accept it for a moment, but only when they shamelessly look upon said thoughts and act upon them without an ounce of compunction. I would say the same can be said about feelings or other temptations as well.
Furthermore, Jesus never said stop having urges to sin, He said stop sinning! If you think about it, even Adam and Eve didn’t fall from grace because they were tempted, but because they acted on that temptation. God never told either of them not to be tempted, he told them not to act upon that temptation by eating from the tree of good and evil. Again, all of this points to something very significant in the lives of every believer today. If He would have said, “stop having urges to sin”, then clearly we’d all be in a heap of trouble, but thankfully, He didn’t say that. Why? Because He knows that thoughts, temptations and strong desires randomly pop up – you don’t actually place an order for them, they just show themselves within. You choose either to accept or reject these thoughts or temptations. If it’s something good, accept it. If not, reject it. That’s our duty as a Christian and that’s what many of us mean by “choice.” We’re not called to put an end to these temptations, as again, even Adam, in his purest, sinless state, in the kingdom of heaven, in the presence of God himself, was tempted, sinned, and then fell from grace. Rather, what we’re called to do is to exercise our free will and submit ourselves to God and resist (i.e. offer strong resistance or opposition to) the devil and temptations. (James 4:7)
“It’s not up to them! It’s out of their control.” This is what I hear people yelling from the mountain tops with regard to those who have homosexual desires. But as I’ve hopefully explained above, they are no different than you and I. What they don’t have control over is their urges (just like us), but what they do have control over (just like us) is the ability not to follow through with those urges. Yes, at times we are enslaved and we do slip in some matters, but 1) this enslavement doesn’t negate free will as a whole and 2) it shouldn’t be used as an excuse to deliberately sin.
These slips we make from time to time should be just that – an accident. For instance, during winter, you don’t see a patch of black ice on the ground and say to yourself, “that has my name written all over it.” No, you don’t choose to fall, you just do. You then get up (a bit more wide-eyed and careful so as not to let that happen again) and you move on. You don’t go looking for another patch of ice to slip on. If you did, that wouldn’t be considered normal by any person who is of sound mind. Likewise, anyone who is of a sound soul – one who truly is in Christ – has been delivered from sinning willfully. 1 John 3:9 doesn’t suggest that we will never make a slip in some matter, but what it means is that those who are of God have been delivered from a life of deliberate sin.
The same great Saint which I quoted above also said, “And it is not when we commit sin that we are sinners, but when we do not hate sin and we do not repent of it.” We’re all called to hate sin, to turn away from it (i.e. repent), to struggle against the sin itself and not with those who rebuke us for sinning, so that we don’t fall prey to every temptation and as a result to be enslaved by these powerful and opposing forces that arise within us.
“But I really feel bad for them – they have to go through so much” is another statement that gets used a lot. In Acts 14:22, it tells us that we must go through, not some, but many hardships to enter into the kingdom. And in 2 Corinthians 4:17, that these momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. But for he who overcomes these hardships without giving up and giving into them, as the world would have you do, Jesus says, “…I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.” (Revelation 3:21)
Plus, Christianity is not about walking a life without struggle. The opposite is true, actually. When you become a Christian, you will experience struggle. Expect it, in fact. Did Jesus walk a life without struggles or was He beaten, tortured, spit at and then ultimately killed for living out truth? Did the Apostles not suffer similar hardship in their lives and also death because of the beliefs they upheld? (2 Timothy 3:10-12) Were some of them not martyred because they stood firm in their faith? If so, then ask yourselves: why should those who have homosexual desires (who are professing Christians) be exempt from hardships when neither Jesus, nor His apostles, nor the Saints, nor any practicing Christian has ever been exempt?
1:00: “It doesn’t say that homosexuals are an abomination before God.”
My response: It doesn’t, no. Only those who have misinterpreted Scripture believe that, but truth be told: Human beings are not an abomination – their actions are an abomination – it’s their actions (Scripture provided below) that God is trying to show them are unnatural. They (not their desires) are actually made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26) and every human’s worth in God’s eyes can be measured by what He allowed His son to go through on the cross for all. (John 5:24)
Furthermore, and as mentioned above, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 attacks the sin, not the sinner. Also, if you turn to Leviticus 20:13, you’ll notice that it says, “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.” It doesn’t tell us that those who engage in such acts are detestable, it very clearly shows us that what they have “done” is detestable. In Leviticus 20:13, “…both of them have committed an abomination.” They are not an abomination, but they have committed an abomination. In Romans 1:27 it says that, “Men committed shameful acts with other men.” The acts were shameful. I mean from verse to verse we see that it could not possibly be more clear what the Bible is telling us, but whether it’s a believer or an unbeliever, we oftentimes see attempts to twist and severely mangle the truth to help further an agenda.
1:04: “There are 31, 173 passages in the Bible. The subject of homosexuality is briefly mentioned in only six of them.”
My response: The entire Bible is full to the brim with accepted and approved examples of heterosexual relationships, though in the 31, 173 passages in the Bible, not six or three or even a single verse that condones homosexual behavior can be found, because it doesn’t exist. The complete opposite is true, actually. All we find time and time again is how Scripture blatantly condemns homosexual acts, because the act (not the person) is an atrocity in the eyes of God. This isn’t meant to serve as absolute proof against homosexuality, but let us not underestimate and undervalue the six verses in conjunction with the complete and total absence of approved male/male or female/female relations in the Bible – do not be deceived – this is not an accident and it’s one image of many that very powerfully reinforces the 6 passages which speak against homosexuality.
Having mentioned all the above points, please consider that maybe everything that was written in Scripture (even though it wasn’t mentioned 30,000 times) is exactly what God wanted us to know then and now. That homosexual sex being forbidden and considered an actual abomination in God’s sight is the reality of Scripture. The image painted throughout the entire Bible (which, again, is far from being limited to simply 6 passages) is abundantly clear and so it’s easy to take notice when some attempt to distort said image. Though desperate times do call for desperate measures, it seems. When they’re unable to find actual Scriptural support for their heretic belief, they have no choice but to make it up. Though let us then not follow suit and devise any wild ideas of our own. Let’s instead turn to 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and see exactly what it has to tell us:
“Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”
Who exactly won’t enter into the kingdom? Let us not fool ourselves: though it’s true that people have a tendency to declare one sin as being far worse than others, in reality, we see that Scripture does not single out homosexuality – it very clearly includes every single human that does “wrong.” That, my brothers and sisters, save for Jesus Christ Himself, is everyone that has ever lived. Adam sinned, Eve sinned, their children sinned and we, too, have all sinned and fallen short of God’s perfect glory, but we shouldn’t forget what Scripture tells us: that among many others who will not enter into the kingdom, included are “men who have sex with men.” The same thing was said even in the earliest written translations of Scripture.
Notice also how it says, “that is what some of you were.” What exactly were they? Again, let’s turn to Scripture. They were “wrongdoers.” They were sexually immoral and they were idolaters and they were adulterers and they were (as in past tense) men who had sex with men. No longer was that the case – no longer did men have sex with men – because they were that way. It’s shocking that some attempt to get around this, but it could not possibly be more clear.
Furthermore, we read in Scripture that they were actually washed. Now please ask yourselves why anyone would need to be washed if their previous acts were not considered unclean (i.e. sinful), but were acceptable and presentable to the Lord. The answer: They wouldn’t need to be washed. Men would continue having sex with men and they would be accepted because, “God loves everyone” and “love rules over law.” But that’s clearly not the case according to 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. Contrary to what both John and Catherine claim, their acts (those who had been washed) were neither clean nor presentable and so their faults (which obviously included homosexual behavior) had to be wiped away completely in order for them to be justified in the eyes of God.
So once Christians are justified, what then? Should we make ourselves unclean again? It’s amazing how we take great pride in all things external – our homes, our cars, our clothes, our shoes, our jewelry, etc. We spend a large portion of our free time not only cleaning these things, but keeping them clean. So how much more care, my beloved brothers and sisters, should we put into our very own soul? That which was created in the image of God Himself? That which was cleansed by the blood of Christ? Should we deliberately continue to sin and, in turn, to make ourselves unclean? No, my beloved, contrary to what NALT may have you believe, we most certainly should not.
Here we have Jesus actually confirming the natural male/female relationship from Genesis 2:24 in Matthew 19:4-6:
“The man said, ‘This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called [b]Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.’ 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.”
1) Who was “taken out of man”? A man? No, it says “she” was taken out of man. A “woman” was taken out of a man.
2) It also says, “for “this” reason.” What is the reason? What is “this” actually referring to? “This” is referring to when a woman was taken from a man. And so because a woman was taken from a man, for that reason shall a man leave his father and his mother and be joined to a woman – his WIFE. We see very clearly the divine order that was set in place since the creation of time itself – an order whereby God created man and woman to multiply and to rule the earth – an order that clearly could not have taken place with a man and another man or a woman and another woman.
Let’s look also to Ephesians 5:32:
“This is a profound mystery, but I am talking about Christ and the church.”
We see that the marriage between a man and a woman points to a profound mystery. The union between man and woman is a physical image of the spiritual mystery which is, “Christ and the church.“ The reason why it’s considered natural is a mystery. Meaning it’s difficult or impossible to understand or explain. It hasn’t been revealed to most people, but it has been this way from the very beginning, even before sin entered into the picture. And before sin entered into the picture, the image that was painted for us was very clear: it was that of only a man and a woman. Therefore, if we’re being truthful with ourselves, seeing as how the image in the garden is an example of what God considers a perfect union, we can then conclude that homosexuality entered into the equation at some later point in time (after the fall) and that it does not (and will not ever) fit into this primal (and everlasting) prototype.
You may say, “Everlasting? Jesus tells us that there will be no marriage in heaven.” The point is not to focus on earthly marriage, but to show the readers how the earthly marriage points to the heavenly union between Christ and His believers. The union between Christ and the Church will always remain. That is what the physical, earthly image, that everyone is called to abide by and respect, is pointing to.
1:17: “Well in the New Testament, Paul repeatedly and explicitly says that following Christ means no longer following the Hebrew laws of the Old Testament.”
My response: Context is emphasized later in the clip, yet John fails to mention what Paul says in Romans in context. He quotes Romans 6:14, but decided not to disclose what St. Paul says at the very beginning of Romans regarding those who are no longer under the law, but under grace. St. Paul says, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace
may increase?2 By no means!” (Romans 6) (Bold emphasis mine)
1:30: “If we did”, follow the Old Testament laws he means, “then today polygamy would be legal, and forbidden would be things like tattoos, wearing mixed fabrics, eating pork.”
My response: Though this is a common argument found amongst those who have chosen to support homosexual behavior, it’s due in whole to their ignorance of Scripture. The problem is that they’ve lumped time-bound judicial and ceremonial laws – laws that were meant for a specific period in time, for a specific people – with the everlasting laws which are ground in God’s nature.
As Christians, we should understand that Jesus fulfilled specific ritual laws through His death, which is why, for example, we have no need of sacrificing animals in this day and age, because the ultimate sacrifice was made on the cross once and for all. It’s also why we can, in fact, proudly wear mixed fabrics. But tell me: which of us can proudly wear the act of murder? How about the act of adultery? Is the everlasting law of idolatry done away with? Do we not still, to this very day, believe that it’s a sin to worship anyone or anything but God? Of course we believe it’s a sin. How in heaven’s name could you not think it’s a sin? Though it’s obvious that John’s stance on this issue would completely allow for Christian idolatry. He says, “following Christ means no longer following the Hebrew laws of the Old Testament”, and so being under grace, according to him, means that we can choose at will to worship idols, take the Lord’s name in vain, dishonor our parents, kill, commit adultery and steal. But again, I ask you: have all of these laws really passed? Is it okay to deliberately do any of the aforementioned things? No? Okay, then how exactly does anyone justify in their own minds the doing-away-with every single law?
When the Rich Man asked Jesus how he was to gain eternal life, Jesus responded very plainly and clearly (speaking in direct opposition to what NALT has claimed to be truth) by telling the Rich Man flat out: “If you want to enter life, keep. the. commandments.” Now what would happen if John or Catherine Shore were to ask St. Isaac the same question the Rich Man asked Jesus? Well, let’s quote St. Isaac, word for word, to see how he would answer:
“It seems to me that there is no need even to ask concerning this. Although there are many commandments, one must keep them, for otherwise there would have been no reason for the Saviour to give them. I think indeed, that our Master said or did nothing superfluous, unreasonable, or needless. For the purpose of His coming was to cleanse from the soul the evil of the first transgression and to bring her back to her primal state. He gave us His life-giving commandments as purifying remedies of the soul’s passionate condition. For what medicines are to a diseased body, that the commandments are to the passionate soul. It is clear that the commandments were given to oppose the passions and for the healing of the sinful soul, even as the Lord said plainly to His disciples, ‘He that hath My commandments and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me; and he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father, and I will love him, and will manifest Myself to him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode in him’ (John 14:21, 23). And again, ‘By this shall the world know that ye are My disciples, if ye have love one to another’ (John 13:35). It is evident that a man can acquire love only after he has received health of soul, and that the soul is not in good health unless she keeps the commandments.
But it is not possible to see in the soul the good works which the Lord taught, unless a man keep the commandments. And showing that the commandments are not burdensome for the lovers of the truth, the Lord said: ‘Come unto Me all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. For My yoke is good and My burden is light’ (Matthew 11:28, 30). And so that we should carefully keep all the commandments, He also decreed this, saying, ‘Whosoever shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of the Heavens’ (Matthew 5:19). After all these things ordained for our salvation, I cannot say that there is no necessity to keep all the commandments. Nor is the soul capable of purifying herself if she does not keep the commandments which the Lord gave as medicines for the purging of passions and sins. You know that evil entered into us through the transgression of the commandments. Hence it is obvious that by keeping them, evil departs from us. But without the doing of the commandments we should not even aspire or hope for purity of soul, because at the very outset we do not walk on the path that leads us to purity of soul. Do not say that God can give us the grace of purity of soul even without our keeping the commandments. I should say that there has never been a man, either of the ancients or of those most recent, who has not kept the commandments and still has reached purity of heart…and as it seems to me, whosoever has not kept the commandments and has not gone in the footsteps of the blessed apostles, is not worthy to be called holy.“ (Emphasis mine)
So please stop being deceived and realize that purity (according to St. Isaac) and eternal Life (according to Christ) is gained by keeping the commandments and that we should not say, “God can give us the grace of purity of soul even without our keeping the commandments”, which is what NALT wold have you believe.
Understand also that there are laws that surely have passed (or, more accurately, have been “fulfilled”, as mentioned) and there are those that will never pass. Understand that Jesus didn’t get tortured so that we can freely torture others; He didn’t die on the cross so that we may freely kill. He died so that we may live and in living we are able to keep these commandments, not break them at whatever time or in whatever way we please.
I’d like to give the readers one final example to really think about. Please look to Ephesians 6:2-3:
“Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— 3 “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.”
If we’re truly no longer under the law, why then is St. Paul telling children to follow the law? Again, please think about this. Why, since we’re all under grace, and since we are, “no longer following the Hebrew laws of the Old Testament”, would he place such a “heavy yoke” on their shoulders and instruct them to follow the 5th commandment Hebrew law of the Old Testament if it no longer applied to Christians? Brothers and sisters, if the law was obsolete, as NALT would have you believe, the blessed St. Paul would never have commanded anyone to obey it. Jesus would have never commanded that you obey it. The are not requests, but commands, which is why we must all see this view that NALT holds to for what it is: an absolute shameful and embarrassing misrepresentation of Scripture.
So what exactly are we saying here? Are we still under the law? No, but we still follow it! Let me explain. St. Isaac tells us that, “Christ demands not the doing of the commandments, but the soul’s amendment.” “Soul”, meaning, “self.” That’s what God wants from us: change. Not an act that’s performed out of duty, but out of love. Not because it’s written that, “this is the right thing to do”, but because we’re moved by the Spirit to do the right thing. We should choose not to steal not because of its consequences, but because we don’t want another human to suffer in the least because of our actions. Grace compels us not to blindly follow rules, because that’s not what God wants. He doesn’t want a heart of stone that follows a set of rules in a robotic manner, but living, breathing, human beings that, through Christ, act out of love toward one another and that freely forgive one another because they, themselves, have freely been forgiven.
Furthermore, we see that Jesus not only didn’t abolish the moral law, but He actually tightened it. For example, in Matthew 5:21-22, instead of being “subject to judgment” for murder, believers would now be liable of judgment if they are simply angry with their brothers or sisters. No one of sound mind and intelligence would by any means whatsoever see that as an abolishment of law. No one! We see very clearly how we are now held to an even higher moral standard than ever before and that is due in whole to what Jesus said. So, no, the moral law clearly has not been abolished. And even the judicial and ceremonial laws have not been abolished, but again, they have been fulfilled by Jesus.
Below you’ll find a write-up that’ll further explain the difference between the laws. The post is courtesy of:
The “big picture” behind the argument about condemning homosexuality as an archaic, Old Testament rule can be understood by the fact that there are different kinds of laws in the Old Testament. Civil and ceremonial laws, such as those concerning religious sacrifices and penalties for unacceptable societal behaviors, were time-bound and limited to the people of Israel. They are no longer in force for a variety of reasons: first, all the OT sacrifices and ceremonies were given as a foreshadowing of the Messiah’s ministry and of His death, burial and resurrection. They are no longer necessary because they were the preparation for the Reality that has come. Second, the civil laws pertained to a nation of people who no longer exist. (The current nation of Israel is a political one, not the same as the group of OT people God called to follow Him alone as their Ruler.)
Moral laws, such the Ten Commandments and all the laws constraining sexual immorality, are not time-bound because they are rooted in the character of God. Time and culture changes do not affect the importance of not worshiping any false Gods because God is the only true God; of not murdering because every person is made in the image of God; of being honest because God is truth; of not stealing because God wants us to trust HIM to meet our needs instead of taking what we want; of being faithful to one’s spouse because God is faithful. And none of the Old Testament laws concerning sexual morality changed in the New Testament because they, too, are based on the character of God as pure and holy. It is always sinful to have sex with someone you’re not married to, regardless of gender.
The scriptural prohibition against homosexuality is further underscored by what Paul reveals as the purpose of sex in marriage in Ephesians 5: sexual intercourse between husband and wife is an earthly picture of the spiritual union of two very different, very other beings—Christ and His bride, the Church. Sexual coupling of two same-gendered people can never reflect the deep spiritual significance of sex. Instead, it is really about pursuing pleasure, and pleasure is not the primary purpose of sex (despite our culture’s views). But that’s another topic.
This distinction between civil/ceremonial laws and moral laws is seen in just about any family with healthy boundaries. When our sons were small, we had rules about “no TV before homework is done” and “don’t leave your bicycle in the driveway.” Those rules were time-bound, not timeless, because they were appropriate only for their growing-up years. We don’t have those rules anymore because they are both adults, out of the house and in their own homes now. But we still have character-based expectations that they be responsible, honest, respectful, and kind. Those “rules” won’t change because they are a different kind from the training rules they grew up with.
2:08: “One of the things Jesus clearly felt was among the most important things to teach was the principle of love over law. Time and time again Jesus demonstrates that to follow Him means to always choose love and compassion over law or rule. When Jesus healed the handicapped at the pool of bethesda, for instance, He broke the law. And He didn’t break just any obscure ordinance, He broke one of the hallow 10 commandments. “Remember the Sabbath day, on it you shall do no work.” Which included the work Jesus did, providing medical treatment in a non-emergency situation. In order to heal a suffering man, Jesus broke one of the biggest laws in the whole Bible. We would be failing our Lord, if we failed to follow His exact example of being loving above obeying any law or any rule.”
My response: The problem both John and Catherine have is that they believe when Jesus said that we are to do “good” on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:11-20), that “good” included homosexuality. They are attempting to completely get rid of the law regarding sexual immorality by claiming that it’s okay to consistently break said law and to engage in what the Bible deems both detestable and an abomination to God (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13), and all because Jesus broke the law to perform a righteous act, and not an unrighteous one. Their attempt to compare selflessly and righteously breaking the Sabbath law once for another human, out of love vs continually and unrighteously breaking the law of homosexuality to fulfill the desires of the flesh, truly shines the light on their ignorance.
Again, what Jesus did was a single and selfless act – He didn’t continuously break the law to fulfill selfish desires. We see that He wasn’t fearfully ruled by the law the way the “stiff-necked” Pharisees were, because He knew that the, “Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.” That is the image one should get from what Jesus did – not that it’s okay to break an existing law. It was a moment where love ruled for the sake of another. Not selfish love, but it was completely selfless. Think about it: what could He Who has all possibly gain by healing others? By healing those who sin against Him day in and day out? It was an act of unmerited favor that was bestowed upon that man – it wasn’t an outright revolt against the law of God.
With that being said, where can selflessness be found in homosexual behavior? The self, the flesh and its desires are very evident within the homosexual community, though in the example Catherine Shore uses of Jesus breaking the Sabbath day law, the self is nowhere to be found. Again, what John and Catherine are preaching is the complete opposite of what Jesus did, which is living a lifetime of selfish behavior by being in favor of homosexual acts.
I’ll say it again: Christ redeeming us from the law means that through Him we’re able to keep the law – it doesn’t mean that we can now break it any time we please and treat His death on the cross and the freedom from law that was given to those who truly are in Christ as a license to sin. One need not have any knowledge of the truth regarding Christ to understand that voluntary sin was overtly rejected by St. Paul.
To further debunk their argument, I’ll point to Romans 6:1-2 yet again by paraphrasing how St. Paul basically said, no way will I ever continue to live a deliberately sinful lifestyle just because I am under grace. No. Way. And yet NALT says, “Live, exactly as you please. God loves everyone. We’re not obligated to follow any law. We’re under grace.” Yet again, just like satan, they deliver truth (that God loves everyone) which is intermingled with lies (stating that homosexuality is not a sin).
3:04: “It’s because of this principle of love over law that we can rest assured that if anything we read in the NT seems to be instructing us to do, think or say anything that harms another, much less harms an entire population, then we have simply misunderstood what we have read.”
My response: Please pay close attention to what they’re attempting to do here. They initially used the “love over law” tactic to get you to believe that if Jesus broke the Sabbath day law “for love”, then two men who love one another can also break the law by practicing homosexuality. Yet now, they switch up their stance of “love over law” to mean not harming another person. They jump back and forth between truth and lie, so the reader must be careful not to be deceived into accepting both the truth and the lie at the same time. In other words, John and Catherine want you to be of one mind with them by getting you to say, “You know, I agree! We, as Christians, should never say or do anything to harm anyone, ever.” Though, again, don’t be fooled into accepting the latter part of their message (that homosexuality is not a sin) along with the message stated at the 3:04 mark (that Christians should never marginalize those who practice homosexuality). Very simply put: hate the sin, not the sinner.
4:00: “Well we know for sure what he wasn’t writing about, which was anything having to do with gay people today.”
My response: Please refer to comment 5:33 below for my answer.
4:30: “In other words, in Paul’s day, there was no concept of anyone, much less a population of people, being born gay.”
My response: Neither science nor Scripture has proven that people are “born gay” (this is a fact) and no man knows when life truly begins, yet some individuals feel no hesitation at all in boldly proclaiming that “people are born this way.” We need to understand and remember that life doesn’t begin when a child enters into this world, or else issues such as abortion would not spark such intensely heated debates. And since no one knows whether kids are “born gay” once they exit the womb either, I’m quite puzzled by how this statement has become a living mantra for many, including both John and Catherine Shore.
Furthermore, this concept John refers to, that exists in this day and age, was not birthed by the God of the Bible. You can say, “scientific evidence suggests that it’s true”, but 1) evidence isn’t proof and 2) you would then have to leave room for the possibility that this evidence just might be wrong. People have been imprisoned for life over evidence that a large group of professionals deemed accurate, though in reality, it wasn’t. Yet are advocates of the homosexual lifestyle willing to accept that maybe this evidence they point to is incorrect and that people aren’t actually born gay? Putting thought and study and time into research for years on end doesn’t make a group of humans infallible either. So I would hope that people are honest enough with themselves to understand and accept that, although the theory may seem convincing, they somehow have no issues with making absolute truth claims based on evidence that simply has not been proven.
Believers are choosing to reject and doubt God, Jesus, His Apostles and the Church, all the while believing outside sources with unwavering faith. All this talk about people being “born gay” is based on faith – faith in what others (not speaking of science here, but others who claim science has proven such a thing) have told them is true. As is the case with our holy Scripture, they are absolutely wrong about their scientific claims as well. They didn’t conduct some experiment in their basement that proved that people are “born gay”, they are riding on the coattails of other unenlightened men and women for their answers. They’re not even depending on science, but on humans who have mistaken what science has told them. You may say, “these other people could be right”, which would completely miss the point I’m trying to make. The point is simply this: 1) they’re applying the same level of research into their scientific studies as they are Scripture (which, apparently, isn’t much) and 2) they believe in man and we believe in God. We both have faith, but this faith is not directed toward the same source. As Christians, instead of turning to science or other humans for answers, let us turn to Scripture and pay heed to what It (the Word of the living God) has to say about who we all really are.
“Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness…”
We can see that Scripture has made what we are abundantly clear: it says that we are made in His image. God is love (1 John 4:8) and so we (all humans) are love, also. That’s what we are: love! He didn’t make us something He finds detestable (Leviticus 18:22, 20:13), but detestable things (many thoughts, temptations, desires, etc) arise within us.
Now even though we’re love (or “gods”, as Psalm 82:6 shows us and Jesus also confirms in John 10:34), unlike God, we have the ability to transgress this perfect love and act in direct opposition to this love and this is what we’re called not to do, because the result is spiritual death. So you can say “I am ‘this'” and “I am ‘that'” about yourself, you can choose to listen to laymen screaming “people are born this way” from the mountain tops and even accept such an idea as being true, or you can ultimately put your faith in our omniscient God and rest assured in what He says you are.
In Romans 1:26-27 it says:
“Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.”
We see that 1) heterosexual relations is what the Bible tells us is natural and 2) men “abandoned” those “natural relations” and did what exactly? They lusted intensely for one another. It also shows us that women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural sexual relations. It is not truly a part of our nature (i.e. it’s not who we really are – it’s not natural) to engage in same-sex sex and that is Scriptural. In the beginning, when God created us, He said that He saw all that He had made and it was what exactly? Lustful? An abomination? Detestable? Evil? Impure? Good? Or very good? That which He created in the beginning, according to Him, was very good.
Ecclesiastes 7:29 tells us that, “God created mankind upright, but they have gone in search of many schemes.” So in the beginning (this refers to mysterious moment when life truly began, not when we think it began), God created (not just Adam and Eve, but…) mankind upright but at some later point in time, we fell away. Some may argue that these passages, “speak of those who sinned first and then they were given over to shameful acts, but some people have been ‘gay’ since the beginning.” But again, no one but God Himself knows when “the beginning” began and we’ve just seen what He has to say about that, so if we are believers of the Word, we simply must stop using this argument, because it literally makes zero sense to do so both from a religious and a secular standpoint.
Also, the point is not to focus on what happened before they were handed over to unnatural lusts, but we must see that their acts (those who engaged in homosexual activity) were unnatural. That should be the readers focus: not, “when could they have possibly sinned in order for ‘that’ to happen“, but that “that” happened – that “homosexuality is unnatural.” It’s like someone saying, “because John stole something, he was thrown in prison.” Then later on we come to find others who had not stolen a single thing, yet they were somehow still in prison. The conclusion then is not that, “prison doesn’t exist”, or that “there is no reason under the sun for them being there”, or that “they were always in prison”, but rather we ask, “why, Lord, are they imprisoned?” Or, in the case of homosexuals, “why, Lord, are they this way?”
This specific imprisonment (homosexuality) is due to something – what that thing is only God knows, but God didn’t make people that way and people didn’t make themselves that way. One might argue that, “they are not imprisoned, because they are in Christ and under grace.” Though I would agree, yes, that every man is under God’s grace, anyone who sins deliberately has not yet been freed from sin, which is precisely what Christ came to do for all mankind: to free them – which is what being “in Christ” truly means. So, under grace? Yes, absolutely! In Christ? No, not yet. Not if there is deliberate sin in the lives of believers. Remember, “If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth.” (1 John 1:6)
Though for the sake of argument, let’s assume for a moment that what John believes is true: that the concept of people actually being “born gay” is entirely accurate. Let’s also assume that the omniscient and timeless God had no idea what science would conclude regarding homosexuality in the 20th century and that His knowledge was limited to the moment He relayed what He relayed to His Apostles. Even if that was the case, this is the dilemma John and Catherine and all their followers are faced with: Either to accept that God knows that people are born gay and yet still commands His Apostles to tell those who “are gay” to repent or to deny His omniscience all together and claim that God literally knows nothing (or at least less than the world does) about His very own creation. So which is it? If they accept and admit (as any professing Christian should do) that He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that we see, had, has and always will have full knowledge of His creation and knew in full what He was talking about when He advised His Apostles to preach repentance of homosexuality to their followers, then their argument is dead. Though on the flip side, if they reject God as being all-knowing, then they would also have to reject the God of the Bible. (Psalm 147:5, Job 37:16)
Yet again, and for the sake of emphasis, if they were to deny that God knows that certain people “are gay”, then if they were being intellectually consistent, they would also have to reject God’s omniscience. If they accept it, however, then their argument, once again, makes zero sense, because then they would have to admit that God knew that people “were” gay, and as a result, St. Paul (“with the wisdom that God gave him”) preaching repentance of homosexual behavior, as 2 Timothy 3:16 shows us, is 100% accurate and applies to Christians then and now.
That being said, let’s not fool ourselves. God knows mankind to their core and He knows His creations’ sexual orientation more than His creation does. In other words, He knows us all better than we know ourselves. Remember: He created everyone. So either way you look at it, John’s argument falls flat and actually turns against him, refuting what he says on the matter. His stance also reveals his ignorance on Scripture, exposes his belief to us all that the blessed St. Paul knew less than he does, and more importantly, it shines the light on his ignorance of the God of the Bible as One Who is incapable of relaying the correct message to His messengers. John blames St. Paul of doing what he, himself, is guilty of doing: turning God’s divinely-inspired word into an intellectual exercise.
So again, my beloved brothers and sisters, why put your trust in laymen? Why not listen to God, His Prophets, His Apostles, His Church, His saints? Why set aside the words of the lofty and the enlightened for scraps that come from individuals who clearly and sadly are misguided in their ways?
5:33: “Wondering what Paul had to say about LBGT people today, is like wondering what he had to say about Ipads. He had nothing to say about either one, because the concept of either one didn’t even exist.”
My response: And therein lies the rub, my brothers and sisters. What clearly has eluded both John and Catherine Shore is the fact that the Apostles were moved by the eternal and omniscient Spirit of God (which is the Spirit of infinite wisdom) that dwelled within them and they spoke through the power of that Spirit, not of their own accord.
1 Thessalonians 2:13:
“And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the word of God…” (Emphasis mine)
John Shore has completely left God out of the equation and has decided to direct all of his attention on Paul, choosing to consider what he preached about as being ‘human word’. Had that not been the case – had John accepted what St. Paul said “as it actually is, the word of God“ (which, unfortunately for him and his followers, is not the case), then one would assume he never would have uttered such a statement, claiming that St. Paul spoke out of ignorance.
The Apostles were able to do many things through the power of the Holy Spirit, which included healing the sick (Acts 3:6-8) and raising the dead (Acts 9:36-42, Acts 20:9-12) and again, when they spoke, it was not based on mere speculation, but they (the Apostles) were but mere vessels of which truth (that came from the eternal God) was being transmitted through. Not from them, but through them. The commands they preached didn’t come from their own mind (which is limited in its scope of reality), but the words they relayed to us – every single message (2 Timothy 3:16) which ultimately was (and still is) meant for the salvation of all mankind – literally came from the unlimited mind of God Himself.
Just as Jesus does nothing of His own, but only speaks what the Father had taught Him (John 8:28). Well in like manner, the Apostles spoke not of themselves, but exactly what was given to them from God. St. Peter confirms this fact in 2 Peter 3:15-16, showing us all that what St. Paul wrote about was, “…with the wisdom that God gave him.” That same verse goes on to tell us about St. Paul that, “He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.” Has this not happened? Have these ignorant and unstable groups and individuals (who clearly have not understood anything they’ve read) not distorted our Scripture? And to the destruction of all who choose to listen to their words? This is precisely what has happened and, sadly, continues to happen.
Please understand that St. Paul didn’t have infinite wisdom, but the Source of that which knows all resided within him. He walked by the authority of the Spirit, spoke by the authority of the Spirit and as mentioned above, even performed miracles by the authority of that same Spirit. None of the Apostles had the ability in and of themselves to heal or to raise the dead and even the Pharisees knew they were “unlearned men” (Acts 4:13). But again, they weren’t knowledgeable, they were Spiritual. They didn’t have their PhD in theology. Only the mind is a receptacle of which we fill with information, but once that information is tapped, what then? We oftentimes anxiously turn without to Google, whereas the Apostles turned to God within. It’s true that it was God that used them to relay specific commands to others, so there was no need for them to know about any future concepts beyond that which was divinely revealed and relayed to them (for us all) by He Who has seen their days, our days, and the days of generations to come, unto eternity.
Though this doubt is directed toward the Apostles, because I’ve personally spoken with Christians who didn’t quite realize this, I think it’s necessary that I point out that the Prophets, Scripture, the Church, Jews, for thousands of years, have referred to God as being One Who is defined as infinite wisdom. Not having infinite wisdom – He is wisdom itself. He is all-knowing. This means that He (or “His wisdom”) has no limits. None! It also means that He wasn’t struck with awe when the Ipad hit the market – He’d seen that day since the creation of time itself.
To further emphasize this point, let us ask ourselves: how can we measure infinity? Where can one find its end? Are we able to measure infinite wisdom the same way the amount of knowledge we currently possess can be measured? No, of course not and Psalm 147:5 confirms this. It confirms that God’s omniscience isn’t limited to the year 2012 and that our wisdom as a humanity (scientifically and otherwise), since the creation of time until this very moment and up until the end of time, collectively speaking, pales infinitely in comparison to His wisdom. Yet again, God knows everything and that One Being Who knows everything was the same Being that dwelled within and inspired those who wrote the Bible. So in reality, the Apostles didn’t write the Bible, God did. The Apostles didn’t condemn homosexuality, God did!
Even in having understood that point, there are those who are still inclined to doubt the veracity of St. Paul. Though if we doubt St. Paul, we would be forced to doubt St. Peter as well, because he vouches for St. Paul by publicly endorsing him and his message. (2 Peter 3:15-16) If we choose to doubt them both, then really, where does that leave us? Should we dismiss the Apostles as not having known any better? Let’s not be foolish. If we doubt the Apostles, then we are essentially doubting God Himself. However, if we accept them and all that they say, then we accept Jesus and in turn, the Father. Proof of this can be found in John 13:20 when Jesus says, “Very truly I tell you, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.”
John 17:16-18 also shows us that the Apostles not only are not of the world (which is why worldly individuals won’t accept them or what they say), but they’ve also been sanctified by the Father’s truth and sent out by Jesus to preach that truth that some are outright rejecting. They aren’t you or me or someone else with a different interpretation of Scripture, they are Perfect, they are enlightened and they understand the Father’s truth in full. So God didn’t fail His Apostles, it’s the world that failed to understand them. The same Being that inspired the Bible was also the same One that informed St. Paul to preach repentance to those who practice homosexual behavior. The One Who dwells outside of time. This means that even though the Bible was written 2,000 years ago, the truth contained within Scripture always was, is, and always will be truth. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow the timeless Word of God will remain fresh and new and living and true.
So ask yourselves: is this who you want to follow? Humans who are consistently and continually in error? A misguided couple who think of our beloved Saints as unenlightened laymen? Please, brothers and sisters, I urge you to wake up and listen to what the Word of God has to say to us all. A Word that was delivered to us through His Apostles and the Church and one that has been accepted for over two millennia.
5:48: “So when it comes to homosexual sex, what was Paul writing about? Well, during Paul’s time, the Roman conquerors of the region frequently and openly had cruel and exploitive sex with their male slaves and with boys. Such acts were considered normal and socially acceptable but not to Paul, God bless him. Paul was condemning the same-sex sexual activity he saw all around him, because it was in fact morally repugnant. Paul was condemning what amounted to rape. The same way we would today.“
My response: The Bible doesn’t deny that people were sexually immoral, but none of the passages that St. Paul wrote provide a single trace of textural support to validate homosexuality as strictly referring to rape. This argument claiming otherwise comes from the minds of those who seek desperately to fulfill their own agenda, rather than simply abiding by the true word of God.
7:25: “Paul wrote that women should always keep their heads covered in Church, yet Christian women today don’t feel morally obliged to follow that edict. Because they understand the cultural context in which Paul was writing. And they adjust, accordingly.”
My response: If you’ve been paying attention, you’ll have noticed that this is a reoccurring theme with both John and Catherine Shore. Yet again Catherine dismisses and sets aside what the Bible tells us and chooses instead to turn to what Christians “feel” like doing today as means to justify her disobedience to Scripture.
In truth, we’re all called not to allow our feelings to become the barometer by which we gauge what is right and what is wrong. (Jeremiah 17:9, Proverbs 28:26, Proverbs 14:12) We shouldn’t live according to how we feel, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, however, is usually in direct opposition to how we feel. (Galatians 5:16-17) For instance, who feels like praying for someone that physically harms them or their families? Who would want to bless such a person? We don’t feel like praying for them, but we do pray for them, because that is what we’re commanded to do. As Christians, we’re called to set our feelings (not Scripture) aside and abide by the everlasting and dependable word of God. If we acted on feelings alone, and set the word of God to one side, many of us would either hate, or curse, or beat, and or kill, because that is what we feel like doing when we (or our loved ones) have been hurt by others.
Having said that, I urge all readers to step foot into an Eastern Orthodox Church and you’ll see for yourselves that women still, to this very day, wear veils over their heads. They haven’t “adjusted accordingly”, as Catherine put it, by allowing an unruly society to set the standard for how they should live. Rather, what they’ve rightfully done is to continue to put their faith in God, His Church and His Apostles and live according to the objectively true Word of God which says that women praying with their heads uncovered is improper. Let it serve not only as means to disprove the claim that “women don’t wear veils” and to show us all that the world is what certain individuals look towards for guidance on how to live, but let it also serve as a shining testament to how deep the roots of the Church truly are. For over 2,000 years now, the Apostolic Eastern Orthodox Church has stayed true to the original teaching of Christ. This is the way it will remain 2,000 years from now with regard to homosexuality, as well, because, as Christ said, “…the gates of Hades will not overpower it.”
Here are some pictures I found online to show the readers how the Eastern Orthodox Church all the world over understands 1 Corinthians 11:13 today and ask yourselves: why haven’t they “adjusted accordingly?” Could it be that the adjustment wasn’t officially ordained by God, but unofficially by man? As the verse says, “Judge for yourselves.”
8:36: “They understand the moral difference between taking communion wine and being habitually drunk.”
My response: So it’s a sin to be habitually drunk but it’s okay to habitually engage in gay acts? If they were intellectually consistent, then they would use the same argument for being drunk as they do for homosexuality. They would say, “St. Paul didn’t mean you can’t live a complete life of drunkenness. He meant that it’s sinful only if you get drunk and then cause problems for other human beings. If from time to time, you get completely drunk in the privacy of your own home, laying responsibly on your couch, not driving, where is the harm in that?” They won’t use that argument, though. They won’t create a “Project” and make claims that, “there is nothing anti-biblical or at all inherently sinful about being drunk”, because it would further weaken their already failing stance on this issue.
It’s easy to make claims, but at the end of the day, Scripture has to support what you say. It provides no support whatsoever for being habitually drunk and it provides absolutely zero support for homosexuality. This is apparent to anyone without an agenda.
8:43: Catherine says that there’s a difference, “Between a passing lustful thought and committing adultery.”
My response: Yes, there is a difference. One you have zero control over (your thoughts) and the other you do have control over (adultery).
For instance, a thought of killing another man arising within you is one thing, but should you willingly choose to act upon that thought, you will be convicted as a murderer both in heaven and on earth. In like manner, homosexual thoughts are one thing (which they don’t have control over), but choosing to engage in homosexual behavior is something they do have control over, it is a sin and they will be, “…receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.” (Romans 1:24-27)
9:11 to 9:37: “Here’s a hint: it’s the only sin in Paul’s list that straight people are never tempted to commit.”
My response: All this statement does is point to something we all already know to be true: that people break the sins they’re tempted to break. Stating the obvious: that sometimes we can be hypocrites. This isn’t ground-breaking news. They continue to point to hypocrisy within the Christian community, yet what exactly does that do to prove their case? Nothing!
What they say shouldn’t lead readers to illogically conclude that because Bob is a drunk, that Jim’s homosexual behavior is acceptable in the eyes of God. It’s not. Both acts are considered – not subjectively or relatively sinful – but absolutely sinful. Both Bob and Jim have committed a sin and both Bob and Jim must repent (i.e. turn from their evil ways), regardless of what either person claims or believes in their own hearts.
9:38: “Christians are being very hypocritical by using the “clobber” passages to apply absolute standards of morality and an absolute penalty to homosexual sins that they themselves are never attempted to commit. While at the same time accepting for themselves a standard of relative morality.“
My response: This has taken a turn from religious heresy, into a lesson on hypocrisy. My response for 9:11 to 9:37 above applies here as well.
10:19: “Sometimes homosexual sex is a sin – sometimes hetero sexual sex is a sin.”
My response: The Bible is clear on when heterosexual sex is not okay and it’s also clear on when it is okay (1 Corinthians 7:1-2). Same goes for drunkenness vs communion – it shows us the difference and tells us also to be of “sober mind.” (1 Peter 5:8-9) But as I mentioned above, all we see in both the Old and the New Testament are passages clearly outlining how homosexual sex is an abomination. Nowhere in any part of Scripture does it even imply, let alone mention, that it’s okay, but rather the opposite is emphasized over and over again.
10:25: “It depends on the context.”
My response: If there’s a specific context where a man can engage in sexual activity with another man without it being considered a sin, then is there a limit to this kind of reasoning?
If a father and daughter love each other in a sexual way, why then would it be considered sinful for them to engage in sexual activity with one another and even take it to the next level and get married? I mean “love is love”, isn’t it? They’re not hurting anyone; they’re not invading anyone’s privacy, so where’s the harm in sharing a life of love and laughter (not to mention sex) together? By John’s sin-friendly standard, it wouldn’t be considered sinful. Neither would fornication, or pedophilia, or beastiality, etc. If you can use context to justify breaking one law, you can use it to justify breaking any and every law.
10:27: “The sexual congress that happens during rape is always bad, but two married people, gay or straight, consensual, loving relations, where is the sin in that.“
10:42: “Where’s the harm?”
My response: This is oftentimes the approach liberal, non-Orthodox Christians have. “If they’re not impeding on anyone’s privacy, and if they’re not hurting others, and if they love one another, where is the harm in that?”, is what they ask.
Though they may not be harming others, the fact remains that they are harming themselves. Why? Because if they’ve accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior but choose deliberately to live a homosexual lifestyle, they will not enter into the kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11) Period! And if entrance into the kingdom to dwell with their Master has been stripped away from them, are we not to consider that harmful? Truth be told: there is no greater harm that can be done.
The absolute worst thing John and Catherine Shore can possibly do to another human, they are doing. Neither theft, nor slander, nor mental or physical abuse, nor even murder is worst than this. And instead of rejecting NALT and their lies – instead of being outraged, some individuals (which, sadly, includes Christians) are accepting what they say and even contributing their efforts to spread these ill-advised lies to the Scripturally-ignorant. As Luke 6:39 says, “Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit?” It’s truly sad and even unsettling how they lead their unsuspecting followers into an everlasting pit of darkness under the guise of kindness and of love.
11:52: John says, “This pain has to end”, with regard to “gay youth” killing themselves over homosexual issues they’ve dealt with in their lives.
My response: It’s an incredibly sad state of affairs that have taken and continue to take place, but we, like the Apostles who stood firm in their faith in God, must also stand firm on the authority of the Church and of Scripture. (2 Thessalonians 2:15) People choosing to commit the sin of suicide should not lead to acceptance of yet another sin. It certainly should never lead to a nationwide embracing of sin. We must find a solution, but that solution should not involve the madness of doing away with God’s word. We must speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15), however, we should not place anyone’s feelings above God or His everlasting laws. As tragic a time as we are in, don’t think you’ll be doing our children or the world a favor by pushing the words of the God who loves those children more than we ever could, to the side. Let’s take a step back and really think about what it is we’re trying to do here.
In truth, pain will never end, as long as we are still outside the doors of the kingdom. But bashing others needs to end; not loving one another also needs to end. This is something any Christian that is living a life in accordance to Christ’s commands will wholeheartedly agree with. The problem we face here is that it only ends when Christ begins, but repentance precedes the mystical union with Christ. (2 Corinthians 7:10) The tragic conclusion for those who accept this deadly virus that NALT is spreading to the masses, is that there will be no end to the darkness that dwells within them. Proverbs 14:12 tells us, “There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.”
11:57: “The bullying that pushes so many young gay kids to take their own lives has to end.”
My response: People have made fun of each other for thousands of years now (Acts 2:13) and they’ll continue to do so for the foreseeable future. What should we all expect as sinners if a blameless and sinless Jesus received what He received? Are we not receiving much less than He did? Also, did He not warn His Apostles in John 15:20 that, “If they persecuted me, they will persecute you?”
We look for peace, but again, peace evades those who are outside the kingdom doors. Even Jesus Himself said that He didn’t come to bring peace upon the world (Matthew 10:34), because He knows that the only place it can be found is within the kingdom. Though how do you enter the kingdom without first repenting? Again, is repentance not what leads to salvation? (2 Corinthians 7:10)
We shouldn’t make light of what our children go through – and that is by far not what I’m attempting to do here, but my point is to show the reader how important it is not to give them false hope and paint for them an unrealistic picture of reality. We should show them how to live life in this realm, by teaching them never to put people in a position that only God deserves. Let them know never to expect the worse out of people, but at the same time not to live their lives in a dream-world by pretending that others are somehow incapable of saying or doing the worst things imaginable. In other words, people may never make fun of them or hurt them in any way (and again, they should never think they will), but they should know that living and acting as though it is somehow outside the realm of possibility for that to happen, can and most likely will result in disappointment, or resentment, or anger, among many other things.
Instead of attempting to put an end to God’s everlasting laws, let us instead relay to the next generation that we all (mankind) are fully capable of transgressing those perfect laws. As I mentioned above, Adam did just that, so how much more us, sinners, who have an instinctive propensity towards evil? Instead of trying to justify evil, as NALT has attempted to do, we should teach our children to pray for their persecutors and to use (in a righteous manner) those who are lost as an opportunity to help themselves find the Way.
Though the evil that plays out in the world is not okay, the fact that God has allowed it to happen should remind us that we are all in good hands. If we think back to the story of Job (specifically Job 1:6-12) – did satan do as he pleased, when he pleased? Didn’t he have to confront God first before he “struck” Job? Even in the New Testament, didn’t he ASK Jesus in Luke 22 if he could harm the Apostles? Yes, of course he did. God confirms this fact yet again for us in John 19:9-11. We see that Pontius Pilate said to Jesus, “Don’t you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?” Then Jesus responded to him by saying, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above.” Do not for a moment think it’s any different today. The power was given to Pontius, it was given to the Pharisees, it was given to the soldiers that beat Jesus and power is also given to all those who act out evil today, which includes those who bully our children. So knowing this to be true, we should have faith that neither the devil nor his helpers can bring harm upon anyone without first getting permission from God – which at times He allows (such as the case with Job) and others times He doesn’t allow (such as the case with Balaam). Now if permission is granted, we should neither question nor curse God for allowing evil to manifest itself into our lives, but rather be wise and praise the Lord at all times, including in times of affliction, the way Job did, knowing that His decisions are always selfless and just and fair and good.
If a child bashes another child who is experiencing gay desires, though, again, the bashing itself is not something they are to accept as being righteous, we should help our children grow spiritually to understand that if God allowed it to happen and that if God ever allows any trouble to enter into their lives, they should never complain. Why? Because no one should ever feel as though God would allow anything to happen to them that 1) they can’t handle (1 Corinthians 10:13) and 2) that isn’t for their own good. Romans 8:28 tells us that, “all things work together for good to those who love God.” This means that all good and all evil will work together for our own benefit.
Again, this doesn’t (in any way, shape or form) mean that evil is good, it just means that the imperfect will be used to purify and refine you into perfection. The things we all go through (whatever they may be) will be used for our awakening. Even if God Himself punishes us, it’s for our own good. (Proverbs 3:12, Revelation 3:19) St. Isaac says about hell, “it is not right to say that those who are in hell are deprived of God’s love.” Brothers and sisters, if we’re dealing with a God Who is defined as infinite, immeasurable love, how can it be any other way? So praise be to God on high, because those who love God (by adhering to His commands, as John 14:21 shows us) are being blessed in every which way they look. This is truly great news. So we have no need of worry – only to love God, love our neighbor, repent of our evil ways and, “…say with confidence, ‘The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?” (Hebrews 13:6)
Having said all that, may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Moses, dispel this evil lie that is being spread (and sadly, even believed) within the Christian community, in His own way, at His own appointed time. May it come to an end, in the name of our glorious Lord and Savior, Yeshua Ha-Mashiach.
QUESTION: They have no choice, so how does it make sense to tell them to stop?
ANSWER: I’ve already explained this above, but I will briefly touch on the matter once again.
What can’t people choose? Can humans choose not to have thoughts? Can we choose not to have urges? Do we have control over who we’re attracted to? The answer to these questions is “no!” What we, as Christians, are saying is not that homosexuals have control over the attraction they have towards someone of the same sex – what we are saying to all people who sin is simply this: you have a choice to accept or reject the urges that arise within you (which includes homosexual feelings) and either allow them, through your own will, to manifest themselves into your life or reject them in the name of Christ as being foreign to your natural state, which is precisely what we’re telling people to choose to do.
QUESTION: Jesus never mentioned anything regarding homosexuality, does that mean He isn’t against it?
ANSWER: Many people use this illogical fallacy (which is referred to as “argument from silence”) to justify homosexuality. Jesus never mentioned anything about incest or any number of other sins, so what then shall we conclude? That He isn’t against them all? Great risk is taken when one allows silence to serve as confirmation for their unfounded belief.
Jesus continuously commanded that people repent; He repeatedly pointed to the Old Testament (OT) as a reliable source of information. He spoke through His Apostles to relay the same message He upheld – Jesus and His Apostles were of ONE Spirit – of ONE mind – so it’s unwise of us to suggest that they were in conflict with one another just because Jesus stood silent on a specific subject that very obviously was/is looked upon as a severe sin in the Church both then and now.
In Matthew 19:4-6, Jesus responds to an inquiry the Pharisees made in their attempt to test Him. “4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
Again, you see here that Jesus was in agreement with the OT. He makes no mention that a man is to leave his father and his father, nor his mother and his mother, nor does He ever say that a man will leave his father and mother for another man. No, he confirms that a man will leave his heterosexual family to be a part of a heterosexual family and that this is the way it’s been since the very beginning. (Matthew 19:8)
QUESTION: Are gay people going to hell?
ANSWER: Gay people don’t exist; people with gay urges exist. They have homosexual desires, the same way most humans have heterosexual desires. That being said, whether it be homosexual-related or not, the only people going to hell are those who don’t repent of their sins – those who openly and deliberately live a sinful lifestyle. So if a person is boastful and proud of their sin – proud of an act that God hates – if they attend events to celebrate their sin(s) – if they place bumper stickers on their car advertising their sin(s) to the world – then you can be certain that until they repent of such behavior, they will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
QUESTION: Is it okay to have gay friends?
ANSWER: You should dwell among Christians of like mind. Those who choose to resist sin. Those who hate sin. Those who want to be delivered from the desires of the flesh. If your friend won’t reject sin, after having done your best to explain to them that what they are doing is considered wrong in the eye’s of God (and maybe even after having taken them to a Church authority to make it official), then as difficult as it may be, it’s best you part ways. If they are repentant and want to be delivered from their sinful urges, then they are no different than you or I and it is not a problem to be their friend and to help them, through prayer, to overcome the sin in their lives.
QUESTION: Are we homophobic if we don’t accept homosexual behavior?
ANSWER: What term should be used to describe those of us who are against theft? Should we be associated with any specific name or word if we take a stand against murder? No, of course not. Likewise, hating the sin, yet not the sinner, speaks of our sound mind that is in union with the eternal Word of God. A Word which isn’t based on fear, or hatred, or anger, but in love and in truth. If we’re truly living in accordance with Christ’s commands, then we are not fearful of sinners nor do we hate them, but what we do have an aversion towards is the sin itself. Regardless of what anyone tells you, that is not bad, it’s good!
The term “homophobic” exists due to the anger and hatred and, yes, even fear that some tend to have toward those who practice homosexuality. Though, in truth, it makes no sense when used toward true Christians that hate the act of homosexuality, because we all know how sin brings with it spiritual death, and thus draws people further and further away from God and His kingdom.
QUESTION: Is animal homosexuality proof that it is a natural part of reality?
ANSWER: No. Genesis 3:17-19 has not only shown us that Adam and Eve became spiritually bankrupt because of their actions but it also shows us that God cursed the ground, making the entire earth spiritually bankrupt as well. So although it currently is a part of nature, it is not a natural part of the divine order that God had set in place at the very beginning of time.
QUESTION: Should we judge homosexuals?
ANSWER: We should learn to distinguish between judgment and condemnation. We don’t have the authority to take Christ’s place here on earth and condemn people to hell – we can’t judge in that sense. Though we most certainly can and should use our judgment to decipher whether or not an act is a righteous act or an unrighteous one. We have to! How else are we to know if something is evil if we don’t judge?
Scripture shows us all that God expects (yes, expects!) us to judge. The Saints are going to judge the world and angels as well. In 1 Corinthians 6:2-3, we see that St. Paul actually rebukes the Church (That’s us! Every Christian. We’re the Church) for not judging.
“2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!”
And in 1 Corinthians 6:5 he says:
“I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers?”
St. Paul says that it’s actually shameful if there isn’t a single person who is wise enough to…what exactly? To judge! To decipher and proclaim that, “Yes, homosexuality IS a sin, brother/sister. Don’t be fooled!”
In Luke 7:43, Jesus told one of the Pharisees that he’d “judged correctly.” And in John 7:24 He told the Pharisees to, “judge with right judgment.” Surely if all forms of judgment were wrong, then Jesus would never have uttered such a statement. But He did, which means that we actually can and should judge.
Think about it. If we don’t judge, how are we to determine what is wrong in order to correct ourselves and/or others, as 2 Timothy 3:16 has expressed? Is it wise of us to rip one single verse (Matthew 7:1-3) completely out of context and then fail to observe the 750+ times the word “judge” is used in all its varying forms (judge, judging, judgment, etc) in the Bible? If so, then when someone sins, we would have no choice but to pay no mind to the sin because we are not allowed to judge. If we see a man who is convinced that murder is okay, decides to slay an entire nation of innocent people, we couldn’t deem his act as being evil. “Who am I to judge”, right? Letting the man roam free in his folly, all the days of his life, should be the view the Church maintains? Far be it from any of us to fall into such an erroneous state of mind. Even on a secular level, people don’t hold to such a belief, so how much more followers of Christ? Whether you point to natural selection or an objective truth that comes from God, people have come to accept certain acts as being absolutely evil. The only way to know this, though, is to judge.
In Kings 3:9 King Solomon says:
“9 Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?10 And the speech pleased the Lord, that Solomon had asked this thing. “
We see that he actually asked God for a heart that would be able to discern between good and bad and that his plea for an understanding heart to judge God’s people was actually pleasing to the Lord. So let’s not accept any misinterpretations of Scripture as being gospel. For what better trap can the enemy of God set than that of tolerance of all sin? Let us all be wise, watchful and discerning children of God. Let us also please the Lord by praying that He grant us an understanding heart that can judge between good and evil, just as King David did.
QUESTION: Do gay people have a right to be married?
ANSWER: Civil rights are 100% distinct from ecclesiastical matters. They have a right to a civil ceremony, but not a religious ceremony. They have been given those rights by their government, but they have not been given any rights by the Orthodox Church. So they shouldn’t act like robbers and thieves that try to take what has neither been given nor offered to them.
Furthermore, and in truth, “The earth is the LORD’s, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it.” So being given a “right” in certain states by a group of heretics, doesn’t mean that it is a right ordained by God. The same group of transgressors may as well give murderers a right to kill, or a brother and sister a right to marry. The acts are not the same, but they are all sins in God’s eyes, which is why they can be lumped into the same category.
A group of people, because of the free will they’ve been given, have created their own definition of what marriage means and have chosen to go against the word of God? What’s new? Has transgression not taken place since the creation of time itself? Well then let’s not be surprised that it happens in our day as well. Seeing many embracing this evil act is truly saddening, but man can only pull one over on himself – let’s not be foolish to think that God’s will is impacted in any way by this. (Job 35:6-8)
QUESTION: Will I see my homosexual friends or family members in heaven?
ANSWER: If God so chooses, we will see people who were once enslaved by the flesh and its homosexual desires in heaven, but practicing homosexuals we will never see. Just as we’ll never see practicing adulterers or practicing thieves, etc.
I believe that God is just and that He has given everyone the same opportunity to repent of their actions and in turn to be saved. So if you want to see your loved ones in heaven, it’s vital that you not only reject any message claiming that it’s okay to engage in homosexual behavior (or any sin for that matter), but you must also relay to your family, friends and to those who may inquire of such matters, that the true word of God does, in fact, command repentance of such behavior.
QUESTION: Why not approach other sins with the same zeal you approach homosexuality?
ANSWER: Because there isn’t a movement of people who lie, or cheat, or steal, or kill, that are trying to convince others that their actions are not considered a sin in the eyes of God. However, with NALT, you have a clear case of “anything goes”, which is why many of us have taken a strong stand against their position and against other like-minded groups and/or individuals.
QUESTION: Are homosexual people supposed to stay single their whole lives?
ANSWER: Between staying single or not entering into the kingdom – between a lifetime of celibacy vs an eternity of darkness – tell me: which is worse? This is no time to sugar-coat reality – no time to be anything but lovingly harsh with our brothers and sisters – so please understand the times we are living in and the strength with which this issue needs to be approached and addressed by us all.
I can only imagine what those with homosexual desires must go through. But as I mentioned above, the Bible tells everyone that we must all go through many hardships to enter into the kingdom, so professing Christians who have homosexual desires shouldn’t feel as though they are exempt from these hardships. They shouldn’t feel bad for themselves, but have faith that their repentance will lead to their salvation. Instead of trying to justify their sinful ways, they should understand what God is offering for a lifetime of repentance infinitely exceeds any and all of the trouble they will go through in this life. I know it’s not a small thing to ask, but believers must accept the Word over how they feel. So I would strongly urge those who are in such a position to pray on the matter and to stand firm in what the Word and the Church has held to as being true for over 2,000 years now. Then let the resisting of each temptation that arises within them serve as the cross they will carry in their tiresome walk back home towards their Father.
QUESTION: A male friend has relayed to me that it’s not just urges, they claim that they “feel” like a woman. So doesn’t that point to who they really are? It’s not just a single temptation, because they feel that way all the time.
ANSWER: If your friend is a woman because he constantly feels like a woman, then by your very own logic, a man who constantly feels as though he is worthless, truly is worthless. Once someone is convinced of their belief, how difficult is it to convince either person otherwise? We oftentimes speak and our words fall on deaf ears. Though if you don’t accept the latter about someone, why then would you accept the former? In the latter case, we oftentimes take great measures to convince someone that they are worthy (regardless of how they feel), though in the former, we confirm their belief. Why? Are we not so much more valuable than we feel? Have we not realized over the years that our feelings lie to us? Do they not condemn us and tell us that we are inferior? Do they not tell us that we’re not special because we don’t fit into a certain societal mold? Have they not relayed to your friend that he’s a woman?
If your foundation is built on feelings, then it’s comparable to a house being built with sand. Feelings aren’t dependable. Simple. So if you want to deify your feelings, you’ve been given that right by God to do so. Though for those of us who choose to allow Christ to be their foundation – their rock, so to speak, what feelings stirring within can impact us the way it does others? So let your inner man rest in Truth and that Truth shall set you free from mental and emotional enslavement. You may say, “but they’ve felt this way their whole lives.” But this again would go back to our instinctive propensity towards evil, even as children. We don’t have an answer for why certain people specifically have homosexual tendencies while others don’t, but the fact remains: they are urges! Urges being there with all living beings for as long back as they can remember doesn’t negate what we believe is the fact that these urges are not who they are.